By now, you understand the importance of knowing how the smart money trade stocks and options.
But How Are you keeping tabs on them ?
This FlowAlgo vs The Stock Whisperer App comparison will help you determine the best method to use in your quest of swimming with the Sharks.
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FlowAlgo vs The Stock Whisperer App: Overview
Data Flow is a Game Changer
Both FlowAlgo and The Stock Whisperer are two paid subscription services that aimed to help traders keep tab with Live money flow in the market.
By having this information, traders are able to make informed decision on the trades they take.
While both service have a common goal, they manner in which the information is provided to the end user is completely different.
Flowalgo started in the fall of 2017 with a web based platform that has seen continuous improvements ever since.
Trading Becomes a No-Thinking Job
As for Stock Whisperer App, it is a mobile based on both Android and iOs with very little tweaking to its format since its introduction.
They both provide one key set of data called the Dark Pool.
The Stock Whisperer uses this data to provide simple guidance on relevant stocks and ETFs.
“No Thinking” is the motto of Stephanie Kammerman who head this service since 2014.
Let’s take a look a some of the difference between the two services.
FlowAlgo vs The Stock Whisperer App: Real Time Options Flow Differences
Unlike the Stock whisperer who solely focus on equities’ money flow, FlowAlgo delivers both stocks and Options Buys and sells orders from the big institutions.
I often refer to them on this blog as “Big Money” or “Big Sharks”.
The Dashboard inside the platform is divided into two sections.
The left-hand side displays all options flow while the right-hand side is devoted to stocks.
Here is he view of the main Dashboard inside the tool.
FlowAlgo Option Features
From the opening bell to the close, a voice (mostly sometimes female, sometimes male) read out individual option orders with the name of the stock, the expiration the Strike and the nature (puts or calls) as they are simultaneously displayed on the GUI.
The order time is also displayed. Calls have a green color for the underlying stock and Puts have the red color for the corresponding stock.
If you missed out, you can run a filter at any time by the premium paid, the quantity or the name of interest.
Option Order Types
Each row has a column to indicate one of these three orders types.
- Sweep Order: An urgent order that sweeps multiple exchanges
- Split Order: A single exchange Sweep Order
- Option Block: A Large block negotiated off-exchange
I have noticed that the sweep are the most desired by the traders hang out on a very rudimentary messaging system on the platform.
Very often, you will read: “Who is following that such-and-such Sweep” .
When the Sweep happens to be on SPY, this gives the traders a clear signal of the bullish nature of the market.
Combined with their own charting analysis, traders get the confirmation of buying calls.
The problem comes when there are mixed signals.
Sweeps and Dark pool at the same times.
Of course Dark Pools can be buys as well as Sells so Closing Price is the only way to reconcile both.
Which means waiting. This is most likely the least owned attribute by most traders.
Option Flow Indicators
Each option order is further qualified by a colored dots.
- Yellow Dot for Very Active Today – The Daily volume of this contract is above its Open interest
- Green Dot for New Top Position – When the number of contracts for that one order is greater than the Open Interest
- Purple Dot for Highly Unusual – The order expire in less than 35 days or less and is 7.5% or more Out Of The Money
All of these features aim to help traders select the best possible trades.
Why ?
Because the risk is being overwhelmed on certain days (beginning of the week mostly) is real.
Therefore, traders have to be selective otherwise over trading is a true possibility.
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Dark Pool Differences
Stock Whisperer Selections
All Prints of stocks are provided inside FlowAlgo.
Dark Pool orders have a dark background and the ticker or stock symbol is outlined in purple as depicted in the above view.
The Stock Whisperer only focused on stocks and ETFs of interest to the publisher.
Meaning that not all the stocks seen inside FlowAlgo are reported by The Stock Whisperer App.
The other major difference is that The Stock Whisperer scanner gets the stocks prints 15-20 minutes before they are reported in FlowAlgo.
Beware of the Splash
I learned this very quickly as I have subscription to both services.
It is really a deal breaker knowing that they like to splash ? Not really
I n case you do not know, splashing is the head fake if you will or attempt by the market manipulators to throw off the rest of us non informed traders.
How is it done ?
After a print comes in, the stock will have a tendency to go the opposite direction from the real intended decision by the people who too k the trade.
Be Patient to Get Direction Confirmation
So just be careful and there is always a need to get confirmation at the closing or open where the stock is trading in relation to the most recent prints especially if those print are Dark pool orders.
After a while, you will actually learn to benefit from the splash as well by taking a small straddle or strangle.
Once the true direction is revealed, you can add more to contracts to the right side while selling the fake side for profit.
The information provided by The Stock Whisperer is very simplified and typically looks like the table picture below.
The left view is a view of the Stock Whisperer mobile App for Android.
Stock Whisperer App Views
Public feed is free information she provides on Twitter while the Private Feed is where paying members get the alerts.
It just so happens that the Private feed has been under development for the last couple of months so she has been using the public feed to communicate the information to her members.
This means that non-paying people get to have this information for free ! Yes for now that is true.
The equivalent of the FlowAlgo orders here gives you the symbol, the print level and a bullish and bearish target.
FlowAlgo doe not provide this analysis.
Just the print level. It is up to the trader to derive when to be bullish and when to be bearish.
On the right side of the image, she sent weekly summary of handpicked stock and ETFs with her recommended bullish and bearish levels.
How about the Rest of the Prints ?
One could wonder but how about the rest of the stocks ?
There has to be more than just 20 or prints in a given day or week, right ?
Yes, that is correct. These are just the ones She deems important by her analysis.
She has been doing this for a long time and thus has come to have a set of watch List that she sticks too.
So I guess that straight leads on unto our next topic.
How much does it cost?
What is FlowAlgo Price
$99 vs $19.99 are the respective prices for FlowAlgo and The Stock Whisperer.
You get a much cheaper price from the Stock Whisperer mainly because you are not getting
- The Option orders that FlowAlgo spits out every minute Literally
- All the stocks prints that FlowAlgo provides albeit 15-20 minutes delayed
The advantage of FlowAlgo is that you get receive all the options flow and can quickly jump on trades.
How quickly you may ask.
Check out these two illustrations on Boeing (Ticker:BA) and Citibank (Ticker:C) that generated over 1000% in less than 24 hours.
There is this filter that allows you research option order that have very close expiration within 3 days.
These are hot options that are usually an indication of a big move and can be very rewarding though it is not always 100% winners.
I have seen situation where unusual options flow will come in and within 24 hours you have a big news announcement like merger and acquisitions.
Sometimes, you can be trapped into a trade since big money uses far dated expirations.
How ?
You follow an option flow with expiration in 3-6 weeks but no real move is taking place in the near term.
Therefore, retail traders with minimal capital can be at the mercy of big money trying to guess when the move will take place.
Conclusion
So, Which one is better ?
My recommendation is that for beginners starting their trading careers, go with the Stock Whisperer App to get your feet wet.
Once you have built a solid capital, you can upgrade to FlowAlgo so that you can take advantage of more opportunities.
If you can afford FlowAlgo cost as a beginner, you may as well start with it from the get go so that you are getting the best of both worlds.
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Thanks a lot for such an amazing review of FlowAlgo vs The Stock Whisperer App and explanations are given.
I haven’t been trading for a long time, so I read a lot of articles on the internet to inform myself. I have read many articles but this is one of the best. Both applications I find useful for a trader.
Thanks again and keep in touch.
Hello my friend,
Glad to read that you found value in this article.
My best recommendation for you since you are a beginner is to take a look at this video tutorial we just published .
It will provide you with the insights you need to become more familiar with all the features of FLowAlgo.
Let me know your opinion about the content of the video.
Thank you and good night.
Once again, thank you for the awesome post! This one deals with the differences between two solid apps, FlowAlgo and Stock Whisperer. I personally like the looks of FlowAlgo, and I think they have a bigger potential of expanding their app than Stock Whisperer does. FlowAlgo offers more, but because of that, I would assume it is a little more confusing to new comers.
Hello Jessie,
How are you tonight ?
I agree with the potential of Flowalgo because combined with AI they are already adding in, I can see FlowAlgo becoming the standard in the future for trading.
Thank you for sharing your views on this FlowAlgo vs Stock Whisperer App discussion.
Bye for now.
Thanks for this interesting comparison between these two platforms. What attracted me more out of the two was the Flowaglo as I love the colour coding using the yellow, green and purple dots to let you know what the stocks are doing at a glance. I also like that Flowaglo seems to update more quickly than the Stock Whisperer.
These features will certainly help me with my trades, and I don’t have a lot of experience in this yet so I need all the help I can get, which is why I often come back and read this blog.
Welcome Michel,
How are you doing ?
Thank you greatly for giving us your positive vote for Flow Algo.
Just for clarification, The Stock Whisperer provides equities prints about 15 minutes before they are available on Flowalgo.
Hope this does not change of your opinion about the merits of the Flow Algo trading Order Flow.
We appreciate you greatly.
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Hello CT,
I am glad for you and your son for finding this review very useful.
I truly do not believe that one can go wrong with either of these tools.
Both are necessary for traders who want to be successful. It all depends on the current experience of the trader which one is more fitting.
I appreciate your time. Let us know if there is anything you would like us to add in this content to improve your trading journey.
In the meantime, If you found value in this, please do share with your circle of friends in Social media.
Thank you.
Thank you for this review/ comparison of FlowAlgo and Whisperer App.
Stock Trading is of great interest to many people. Stock trading is an exciting, shorter-term strategy where it is you against the market. Stock trading is one of the most exciting things you can do, but it does require a lot of skill and discipline to succeed. According to the way you described these two systems, FlowAlgo seems to be the best in my opinion. Thanks.
Howdy Mugalu,
Thank you for stopping by to provide your input in this comparison between Flow Algo and the Stock Whisperer.
One cannot go wrong with either choice.
Therefore we understand your preference for the numerous features of FLowAlgo.
Have a great evening and Talk to you again soon.
Dear Telex,
First and foremost, thank you for this very useful post. Concise and to-the-point. I’m having a little trouble understanding the following paragraph from you post:
“The problem comes when there are mixed signals.
Sweeps and Dark pool at the same times.
Of course Dark Pools can be buys as well as Sells so Closing Price is the only way to reconcile both”.
I don’t fully understand the “Dark Pools” term in the context of FlowAlgo? What does it really mean and how/where is it displayed in FlowAlgo?
You’ve perfectly defined Sweep Order, Split Order, and Option Block and where are they are indicated in FlowAlgo but I can’t seem to find the Dark Pools.
Once again, thank you.
Shawn
Hello Shawn,
Flow ALgo has two sections.
The left side is devoted to Options contracts being bought at the Ask price.
The right hand side is dedicated to the equities prints (stocks being bought or shorted).
A subset of the equity prints are those that are routed through Europe and are available to us the next day.
These are called Dark Pool prints.
One can recognize them from the Live prints with a different color.
therefore, if you have a flow of Options and a print (dark or not) on that stock, there is no telling of the immediate direction since the prints (Dark or not)
can be both Bullish or Bearish.
Hope this helps.
Hi Telex — Thank you for taking the time. I truly appreciate your explanation.
I’ve been thinking about signing up for either FlowAlgo or Cheddar. Trying to understand the value given they’re both a little pricey.
When I filtered AAPL, TSLA few days ago, CheddarFlow showed 24 entries for AAPL and 12 entries for TSLA.
But when looked on FlowAlgo, it only showed 7 entries for AAPL and 3 for TSLA
So my question why there is such a difference between these platforms?
Also, can you please share your valued thoughts about these two platforms in terms of monthly their monthly cost and any value they deliver?
Thank you for your selfless contribution.
Hello Shwan,
Thank you fir the positive feedback.
Regarding the discrepancy between Cheddar Flow and Flow Algo, it has to do with the reporting criteria each platform has adopted.
Flow Algo strictly reports purchased Options at the Ask price therefore it is bound to show a lower number.
As for the value, I believe my recommendation clearly stares that Flow Algo is the superior tool despite costing more.
Now, if you are really looking for proven reliable and readily actionable Alert service, nay I suggest Successful Tradings Subscription Trade Alerts Service.
Did you check their profits over the last couple of months ?
Hi Telex,
Thank you for this. I am currently subscribed to Stock Whisperer App and enlisted in a course, and look to learn the fundamental trading methodology from Stephanie.
I am in Canada and I am in search of a Dark Pool / Option Flow platform. FlowAlgo is something I want to check out, however. Stephanie uses Charles Schwab Block Indicator as well as CBOE LiveVol Pro (or Core), and pointed out Data
1) https://www.livevol.com/analytics-platforms
2) https://datatraderpro.com/ This is software, not a broker, but offers Dark Pool access to traders outside the U.S.
3) Another popular option is Black Block
Do you have any insight, review or opinion on the above services compared to FlowAlgo?
Thank you
Hello John,
Thank you for stopping by.
Have you read our original article on Flow Algo yet ?
It also compares it to 2 others systems.
Hope this helps.
Data Accuracy
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Ease of Use
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Hi Telex
Great review!
I already subscribed to Stock Whisperer but can’t figure out to use at full. Do you know if the daily Whispers are for day-trading and Prints are mostly for swings? Does bullish above/bearish below mean the levels of close of the current day? So we can action on a later date to get bigger move.
Thanks
Greetings JT,
Thank you for stopping by.
You are correct on all your statements and understanding.
How long have you been trading ?
On options trading about 4 months only. Still learning a lot!
Hello JT,
Great to hear about your decision to learn Options Trading.
Check out the Tutorials we have on this blog and let me know how I can be of further assistance.
Thanks